[seedig] Your support needed to take SEEDIG work forward

Nenad Marinkovic nenad at marinkovic.rs
Tue Sep 17 16:11:04 CEST 2019


It is easy to buy BMW, lot of drivers and passengers, maintenance is real problem and costs

 

Pozdrav/Regards

Nenad

 

From: seedig [mailto:seedig-bounces at lists.rnids.rs] On Behalf Of Dušan Stojicevic
Sent: utorak, 17. septembar 2019 15:11
To: 'Frédéric Donck'; 'Sorina Teleanu'
Cc: 'Seedig'
Subject: Re: [seedig] Your support needed to take SEEDIG work forward

 

Hi,

 

Ah… Always when I see this topic, it brings memories from couple of years ago, when I was young(er) … 

Back then, I was almost there to register legal entity for SEEDIG in Serbia, and...

The rest is history – my resignation, elections and … we are there AGAIN. Wow, the circle is closed J

Of course that “the gang” of the exe com, they know well how it should be done and what they need to do. Once, they almost did it.

I bet that they have pro & cons about (not only one) jurisdiction, but there is a catch> the choice of jurisdiction simply can’t be that rationally made...

History is a great teacher: back then, even community decided, but irrational things happened. 

 

So, you were asking about the money – what’s the cost of oppening legal entity? Let me try to answer.

The cost of oppening, including all expences, is irrelevant compaired to the cost of irrational, wishful thinking („SEEDIG in his/her country and he/she as legal representative – he/she will be billionaire!!!“) and nerves spent. 

 

Money makes the World go round… ;)

 

My two cents (use them wisely, to pay the opening of legal entity)

Dusan

 

From: seedig [mailto:seedig-bounces at lists.rnids.rs] On Behalf Of Frédéric Donck via seedig
Sent: 17. септембар 2019. 14:13
To: Sorina Teleanu <sorina.teleanu at seedig.net>
Cc: Seedig <seedig at rnids.rs>
Subject: Re: [seedig] Your support needed to take SEEDIG work forward

 

Hi

 

Thanks for sharing this information. Even though it is a little bit disappointing to hear that no clear progress has been made here.

IMHO the Exec Cttee of SEEDIG should be able to come up with a Pro/cons list on whether (or not) it is interesting to establish a legal entity.

I have seen Anna R. comment a few minutes ago and she is making *excellent* points: registering SEEDIG as a legal entity would allow it to engage in more formal ways with other entities, including with EU (depending on the HQ)

But there are indeed, cons as well as eg. the costs of establishing such an entity and the costs to run it.

So: can we have a better idea of the pros and cons- please.

 

Then, when the strategic decision is being made to proceed — or not to proceed, the rest, including where SEEDIG should be established is a decision to be taken by the EXEC of the Organization (which might indeed decide to consult the wider community to see whether such a decision proves problematic to some stakeholders in the community)

This is what an Exec Cttee is supposed to do: execute.

 

Thanks

 



Best Regards

Frédéric

Frédéric Donck
Director, European Regional Bureau
Internet Society 

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Le 17 sept. 2019 à 13:50, Sorina Teleanu <sorina.teleanu at seedig.net> a écrit :

 

Dear SEEDIG community,

As Chair of the SEEDIG Executive Committee, I call on you to get involved in taking SEEDIG work forward.

Over the past few months, the Executive Committee had a series of discussions on creating a SEEDIG legal entity (as many of you have asked for). We are not there yet, as opinions within the Committee are diverse on how to move forward. Due to this, little progress has been made on other SEEDIG tracks of work.

But since we are now only a few weeks away from the SEEDIG 6 cycle, discussions and decisions on related issues need to advance.

One of SEEDIG’s biggest strengths is the community-based approach that gives us the legitimacy to take decisions even without being organised as a legal entity. Therefore, your support in continuing work and taking decisions on pending and future matters is essential. 
And I trust we will have lively discussions here on the mailing list and in online meetings.

To start with, I will soon be sending a separate e-mail on the planning process for SEEDIG 6, asking for your input. Meanwhile, talks are resumed with possible hosts for SEEDIG 6.

With your involvement, we will hopefully confirm the host of our 2020 meeting soon. As for the SEEDIG legal entity, we might want to consider creating an open working group to explore options and propose a way forward.

Thank you in advance for your support!

Best regards,

Sorina

 

 


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