[seedig] Meet the SEEDIG 5 Ambassadors

Natalia Filina filinafilka at gmail.com
Wed Feb 20 16:01:31 CET 2019


Dear all, hi!

I would like to congratulate our wonderful ambassadors!!! Everyone deserves
this role to enhance our SEEDIG`s fame.

(As a secret, I hope one day (before I become a grandmother-) to get the
opportunity to be in this list.-)

Off-topic:
I have a question about our next steps - I remember last year we all had
the opportunity to participate in the preparation of sessions.
I'm sorry if I missed some information - may we be involved again and when
do we start?


Sincerely yours,
Natalia Filina

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ср, 20 февр. 2019 г. в 13:44, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan at dukes.in.rs>:

> Dear Narine,
>
> Thanks for your email and you perfectly explained why your name was in my
> mail and what are your answers to my questions.
>
> Cheers,
> Dusan
>
> sre, 20. feb 2019. 14:04 Narine Khachatryan <
> ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com> je napisao/la:
>
>> Greeting everyone,
>>
>> I do not know, why my name is mentioned in this conversation, *I have
>> NOT applied to the SEEDIG Ambassadorship. *
>>
>> I am also calling on everyone to refrain from labeling or shaming people,
>> only because they dare to ask questions, like Alexander asked. We should
>> THANK Alexander for taking time, investing his knowledge and expressing his
>> willingness to help with the initiative.
>>
>> I believe mutual RESPECT should be at the core of any good undertaking
>> people try calling to life.
>>
>> One more remark, I truly believe in the power of bottom-up, in the power
>> of democracy. Any entity, any undertaking, any enterprise only gain from
>> people's participation, not vica versa. I don't believe in top-down, and
>> particularly for that I have not applied to Ambassadorship.
>>
>> Have a nice day, everyone!
>>
>> Yours, Narine
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:40 PM Dusan Stojicevic <dusan at dukes.in.rs>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Aleksandar, all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since you quote me, I am somehow forced to react on your email. I hear
>>> you and feel you, since I am not also elected … I am also at the edge with
>>> nerves…
>>>
>>> For the record> I was not even applied for this program, which is, I
>>> presume, the main reason why I wasn’t elected… but still the fact stands –
>>> I am not elected.
>>>
>>> And I want to add one big rant on that program – there is no one from
>>> Serbia! (for the same reason – no one applied).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now seriously.
>>>
>>> Your mails makes me think a bit about the simple question – why this
>>> ambassadors program (or any elections) touches people more than any other
>>> issue, f.e. legal entity or any call for work (SEE summary project or
>>> similar)? Why some people always act like their contribution through the
>>> history must be recognized and prized with roles (including money for
>>> travel) in SEEDIG? Why someone would like to drop out from SEEDIG (or
>>> entire IG as it is mentioned) after not being elected? Why we need to count
>>> blood cells and genes of elected ones?
>>>
>>> All of that is a greedy human reaction when there is a desire for money
>>> and power. Followed with counting how many exe com member was pushing
>>> “their people from country”. By that logic you suggested, why North
>>> Macedonian exe com member didn’t push you, Aleksandar? Or it could be
>>> objective elections done by exe com, all based by provided and proved facts
>>> about the people who applied, without any rules on nationality (especially
>>> that one – one ambassador from one country)? And how can you be sure that
>>> someone is not good for that Ambassadors role?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aleksandar, Narine, and all of us – we need to ask ourselves few major
>>> questions>
>>>
>>> 1.       Our acts are speaking best about ourselves. So do our mails.
>>> When we are going to stop acting like kids?
>>>
>>> 2.       When will we accept that there could be better persons than us?
>>>
>>> 3.       Will we once stop with lack of trust on people elected by us,
>>> people from exe com?
>>>
>>> 4.       When are we going to work for a change, not only preaching
>>> about history?
>>>
>>> (For such big people from the history, I have a suggestion to exe com>
>>> to invent and introduce some honorary titles – “League of heroes of SEEDIG”
>>> or “SEEDIG hall of fame member” or “Advisory committee of grandmas and
>>> grandpas”.
>>>
>>> History is only 5 years! Guys, fingers on one hand…)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dusan
>>>
>>> “lonely and broken man without any SEEDIG tittle”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* seedig [mailto:seedig-bounces at lists.rnids.rs] *On Behalf Of *Aleksandar
>>> Ichokjaev
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 8:48 PM
>>> *To:* Sorina Teleanu <sorina.teleanu at seedig.net>
>>> *Cc:* Seedig <seedig at rnids.rs>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [seedig] Meet the SEEDIG 5 Ambassadors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Congrats... I couldn't agree more with Kristina..
>>>
>>> Yet..     I thought I would never find my self in a position like
>>> this...  to give up and to abandon years of self investment in time and
>>> (less) money...  ( thanks to the funding programs of ICANN and EuroDIG )
>>> and exceptional individuals ...  ( I still think about to whom I shall FW
>>> or CC this email..  )
>>>
>>> People say :  follow your instinct ...  whatever your instinct tells
>>> you,  that is the right thing to do or to say ..  if you hesitate, the
>>> calculations starts.... and you do not want to be a part of calculation ...
>>>
>>> Well...  my sincere endorsement goes to Fotjon, Maja, Olga, Ola,
>>> Kristina  ...  I know them all ...   they are the real "veterans" ...
>>>
>>> However I can't help my self not to mention that I see 3 ( three )
>>> people from Romania ,  2 ( two ) from Albania and 4 people that I hear
>>> first tine about them ( it is probably me and my ignorance..  )  that are
>>> selected for,  as Dusan S. would say :   "Being an ambassador is a very
>>> high and respectful role, and it's a matter of time when we start to
>>> address to them as "Your Excellency"  and ...I know Marko as well but I see
>>> him as most effective and  productive in the youth program not as an
>>> Amdasador...  there are steps in life like in education ...  but this will
>>> also be a good school for him ...
>>>
>>> To avoid any confusion about the motives behind this read,  Yes,  I did
>>> apply for the ambassador program !
>>>
>>> Just for the younger  members of the community,   ( the new comers )  I
>>> was involved in the SEEDIG process from the very beginning including the
>>> first preparatory meeting in Sofia in January 2015 , attended the first
>>> SEEDIG in May same year in Sofia and all  SEEDIG meetings that followed in
>>> Belgrade, Ohrid and Ljubljana.  As a result and my involvement in ICANN as
>>> of 2010 and the Global IGF including  EuroDIG, today I'm one of the
>>> founding members and coordinator of the national Macedonian NRI  - IGF
>>> MKD.  http://igfmkd.mk/
>>>
>>>
>>> Obvioselly, this will  be the first SEEDIG for me to skip, because of
>>> personal reasons..
>>>
>>>
>>> And again for the younger  members of the community...  this is a good
>>> lesson for you that the control is everything , control is power...
>>>
>>> However,   It was a great journey ...
>>>
>>> Everybody ...  Have a nice life  !!!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Aleksandar Icokaev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/19/19 18:34, Kristina Hakobyan via seedig wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Sorina
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. And again congratulations to all colleagues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 21:24 Sorina Teleanu <sorina.teleanu at seedig.net
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> We are glad to inform you that the SEEDIG Ambassadors Programme is now
>>> up and running. We have ten Ambassadors whose role is to help increase
>>> SEEDIG's visibility and presence at national, regional and international
>>> level, and contribute to achieving SEEDIG's goals within the SEE+ region.
>>>
>>> For now, we invite you to read more about the programme and the
>>> Ambassadors themselves on the dedicated page
>>> <https://seedig.net/ambassadors-programme/>. As the Ambassadors go
>>> ahead with their activities, we will be updating the page to reflect their
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Lastly, we would like to mention that, although the selection process
>>> was finalised a bit earlier, we needed some time for collecting all
>>> relevant information that you can now find on the dedicated page. We thank
>>> our Ambassadors and the community for patiently waiting for the
>>> announcement. And we are also taking this opportunity to thank all those
>>> who have applied for the programme.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Sorina
>>>
>>> (on behalf of the SEEDIG Executive Committee)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *Sorina Teleanu*
>>>
>>> Chair | SEEDIG Executive Committee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://seedig.net>
>>>
>>> SEEDIG 5   |  <https://seedig.net/seedig-2019/>7–8 May 2019, Bucharest
>>> <https://seedig.net/seedig-2019/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> <https://twitter.com/SEEDIG2019>    <https://seedig.net>
>>>
>>>
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