[seedig] On recent discussions

[Natalia Filina]

Dearest Narine,
Thank you very much, there is mutually pleasant to communicate with you.
As I understand correctly, there will be new elections as answers to all
our questions.
And then new vivid year for SEEDIG.

Looking forward to see all of you,


Sincerely,
Natalia Filina

Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
https://individualusers.org/
Member of ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement

Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC)

+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation


ср, 18 дек. 2019 г. в 14:54, Narine Khachatryan <
ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com>:

> Thank you, dearest Natalia,
>
> I enjoy conversation with you very much and also impressed by your skills
> for 'external', 'foreign' relations, great abilities of intercultural
> communication.
>
> My thoughts have been that sometimes thinking overly about *how we appear
> to the outside world*, we should not lose values we nourish: of equal
> participation, inclusion, fairness, justice, etc.
>
> Treatment of our colleagues, our everyday behavior, actions should
> correspond to our words, even in small details, they *should correspond
> to the Flag we carry and Values it symbolizes. *
>
> No wonder, technologies are capable of bringing our ship to the
> totalitarian rule. So thinking overly about our outer appearance, image,
> reputation, we should not create environments, in which people are scared
> to speak up. Environments, in which in order to stay in and not to be left
> out, you must be always politically correct.
>
> Democracy is particularly strong with its pluralism - not staged, but
> genuine.  Strong democracies nurture dissent. And those who have power
> should not to abuse it to keep it eternally.
>
> Russians have an interesting  proverb, which I like - “Не выносить сор из
> избы..”  - “Don't wash your dirty linen in public”. But what to do, when
> all other means have been used, and the solution has not been found.
>
> There are journalists on the list who know that strong journalism is about
> listening to the opposite side – especially before you express your opinion
> publicly.
>
> These shakedowns on the list and in the community, the blog, which
> surprised people, may ultimately have surgical but healing effect on
> SEEDIG. And we should thank people who have had enough strength to stand up
> and speak and bring improvements.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Narine
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 2:11 PM Natalia Filina <filinafilka at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Narine, all dear colleagues,
>>
>> many thanks for this kind conversation and very nessesary thoughts.
>> Dear Narine, I fully agree with you.
>> I can say that I always pay my attention to your strong position of
>> protecting those members of the community who express  their views (may be
>> controversial), on the processes taking place inside SEEDIG. We must be
>> yourself and have freedom.
>>
>> I would like to thank you for correctly understanding my positive
>> attitude to our work in all our IG activities. I believe in us and our
>> abilities and bright future.-)
>>
>> All our communities, commettees etc in which we are working are the
>> volunteer communities. There is a constructive work. The main resource is
>> people.
>> The voluntary contribution of skills, time, and effort to creation and
>> growth must be feeded by mutual respect, a lack of desire for intrigue, and
>> personal profit of any kind of them. Otherwise, we will start hold our time
>> on conflicts rather than productive work.
>>
>> I know for a fact that any issue can be discussed openly and honestly.
>> It is good that SEEDIG is that kind of community.
>>
>> And if in the frame of this issue was taken the point of outsides public
>> actions, it is good when the community has the right to decide under which
>> flag our ship go ahead and how to maintain our high level of reputation.
>> This is very important for such a large-scale project as the IGF
>> subregional initiative.
>>
>> I'm so proud to be a part of SEEDIG.
>> I will do my best to be not just part of the mailing list, but help and
>> work. As earlier.
>>
>> Thank you all,
>> and the force be with us-)
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Natalia Filina
>>
>> Secretary of EURALO
>> https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
>> https://individualusers.org/
>> Member of ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement
>>
>> Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC)
>>
>> +7 906 722 54 61
>> Moscow, Russian Federation
>>
>>
>> ср, 18 дек. 2019 г. в 10:29, Narine Khachatryan <
>> ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear community, dear Natalia,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your letter, thank you for your positivity which you
>>> constantly bring to all the discussions. Like you, I think that words of
>>> appreciation, of course are necessary to those, who dedicate time, energy
>>> and efforts to something, which is of common interest and benefit.
>>>
>>> Of course, there are best people and there are unique people, and
>>> particularly for that we all try now to build a society in which not only
>>> VERY talented, VERY strong, VERY gifted people can have their place, but
>>> everyone, even handicapped, elder or disadvantaged may have a fulfilling
>>> life, without losing dignity.
>>>
>>> Indeed, some of us are surprised, because for quite a long time, there
>>> has been an impression of a comparatively quiet list/community, yet the
>>> current discussions have revealed it wasn’t because there was nothing to
>>> speak.
>>>
>>> As we see from around the world, people usually break boundaries of
>>> silence (maybe sometimes in an unpleasant way), when leaders, rulers,
>>> managers neglect some universally acceptable rules of co-existence.  What
>>> if, when some privileged - special few become more equal than others? Or
>>> when, misbehavior is not punished?
>>>
>>> I would like to echo Roberto’s words, whom I respect very much, that we
>>> should not worry so much, when problems and differences arise – we live in
>>> a diverse world. And to be able to overcome differences and grow we need to
>>> go through the tough situations, which only help us to grow stronger.
>>>
>>> Natalia, please believe my words, there have been much more discussions,
>>> in some cases people refrained from writing questions to the public list,
>>> because they all have took care of SEEDIG reputation at a first place, and
>>> only after  – concerned about own (private) interests.
>>>
>>> We witness today, when things are silenced (Human Rights defenders know
>>> this well), the problems do not disappear, they usually go deeper and one
>>> day start bleeding.
>>>
>>> That is particularly why we should not create alienating environments,
>>> in which people are afraid to speak, in which undesirable or unpleasant
>>> opinions maybe silenced, in which impoliteness or lack of ethics become
>>> normal.
>>>
>>> Concluding I'd like to thank all, who wrote, messaged, called me these
>>> days. Regretfully, I have not had an opportunity to participate in any of
>>> SEEDIG meetings. I had recently exchanged emails with Sonia, whom would
>>> love to know personally. Hope that future will open that opportunity,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Narine
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>    *Narine Khachatryan* | Executive Director
>>>       *STEM Society|**Safer Internet Armenia*
>>>
>>>       Yerevan, Armenia
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>       www.safe.am
>>>
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