[icann-see] SEEDIG Asssociation

[Michael Oghia]

Thank you for the clarification Dusan.

Best,
-Michael


On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Dusan Stojicevic <dusan at dukes.in.rs>
wrote:

> Dear Bogdan,
>
>
>
> Bogdan, first I want to thank You for your mail.
>
> And I want to put some light on your questions, not final answers:
>
>
>
> 1.       International organisations are not available as model of
> organizing in SEE. You can check http://www.uia.org/taxonomy/term/2
>
> Building something in those countries need extra effort and a lot more in
> order to taxation, money issues with banks, paperwork and payments. There
> is another aspect which makes this somehow not wanted: in order to get
> funding from some EU project, it’s better that org is coming outside of EU,
> which half of the countries in SEE are.
>
> But, we will investigate this option further, and (as far as I know) Iliya
> can help us (I think Core Association is just that).
>
> 2.       There is no problem to have legal entity as member, nor private
> person. It will be regulated under the statute, in phase 2. Possibility of
> further change depends on the domestic law, where association will be
> formed – in some countries You need to have both from the beginning.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dusan
>
>
>
> *From:* icann-see [mailto:icann-see-bounces at lists.rnids.rs] *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Oghia
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:05 AM
> *To:* Bogdan Manolea <bogdan at legi-internet.ro>
> *Cc:* icann-see at lists.rnids.rs
> *Subject:* Re: [icann-see] SEEDIG Asssociation
>
>
>
> Good questions Bogdan.
>
>
> Best,
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Bogdan Manolea <bogdan at legi-internet.ro>
> wrote:
>
> Sounds good IMHO - a couple of things to clarify though:
>
> - is it possible to set it up as a international association (I know
> that is possible in the Belgian law, just needs to be decided from the
> beginning)? what that relates to the question - under shich country law
> it will be formed?
>
> - would the association accept just phisical persons, or also legal
> persons? Can you change it afterwards?
>
> best regards
> Bogdan
>
>
> On 10/22/2016 05:41 PM, Dusan Stojicevic wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > To further clarify the position in the previous document (re-attached
> > here), I am sending this second mail. While everything written in this
> > document remains valid, some issues are further explained below.
> >
> > Also taking this opportunity to thank Michael for his very fast reaction
> > and his support for our proposal.
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
> > After several discussions held within SEEDIG’s executive committee, as
> > well as with all SEEDIG supporting organisations, we are writing to you
> > with *a* *proposal regarding the creation of a SEEDIG association,*
> > while kindly asking for your feedback.
> >
> >
> >
> > Since its launch in December 2014, SEEDIG has steadily grown as an IGF
> > initiative. In addition to the annual meeting, we have launched a number
> > of inter-sessional activities, and are actively looking for new such
> > opportunities. The SEEDIG community is also continuously expanding. With
> > SEEDIG growing, so does the complexity of our processes and work. In
> > order to be able to more effectively manage these processes and work, we
> > believe it is opportune to give SEEDIG a legal status, through creating
> > a dedicated association. This view is shared by our supporting
> > organisations (whom we would like to thank once again for their advice
> > and continuous support).
> >
> >
> >
> > Giving SEEDIG a legal status would, contribute to ensuring the
> > sustainability of the initiative, bringing more credibility, and
> > addressing some of the challenges we have faced over the past two years
> > (such as management of donations, liability, agreement with partners,
> > etc.). A detailed overview of the current situation and the implications
> > of having a SEEDIG association is in the attached document.
> >
> >
> >
> > As you know, the preparatory process for the 2017 meeting has started,
> > and there are a number of steps that need to be taken soon
> > (fund-raising, logistical arrangements, etc.). These steps would be more
> > appropriately and easily handled through a legal structure.
> >
> >
> >
> > For all the aforementioned, *our proposal is to create a SEEDIG
> > association, in a two-phase process.*
> >
> >
> >
> > *Phase 1*
> >
> > Creating a *‘beta association’*, having as founding members the current
> > five members of the executive committee. The statute of this association
> > would be a basic one, and would only describe the minimum elements
> > required by law (objectives, founding members, basic decision making).
> >
> >
> >
> > This would allow us to have the association created in a relatively
> > short time frame. Having a ‘beta association’ in place would facilitate
> > the preparatory process for the Ohrid meeting, as well as our
> > inter-sessional activities.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Phase 2*(to be launched in parallel with phase 1)
> >
> > Running an open, inclusive and transparent process for building a more
> > comprehensive statute for an *‘association 2.0’*, which would expand
> > beyond the founding members. This statute would go into more detail on
> > aspects such as membership, governing structures, decision making, roles
> > and responsibilities, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > We expect this process to take several months, allowing the statute to
> > go through several stages of iteration. One possibility would be to
> > consider approving such a statute at the Ohrid meeting next year.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are therefore kindly inviting you to reflect on the above, share your
> > views, and let us know if you agree with the proposed approach. As
> > before, silence will be taken as agreement. *The deadline for input is 1
> > November.*
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you and we look forward to hearing from you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dusan
> >
> > (on behalf of executive committee)
> >
>
>
>
>
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