[Icann-see] Web site seedig.net

Michael Oghia mike.oghia at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 14:58:43 CET 2016


Dear Narine, all:

Those are all good points as well, thank you. I'd also add it's important
to consider how we can leverage the experience and perspective we have in
the SEE region, especially how it relates to different variations in issues
experienced by the larger European region (censorship and restriction of
free expression particularly come to mind).

On another note, something I apologize for not reiterating before is that
the website is very well-designed and intuitive. Dusan, you and the team
did a great job at designing and programming it. Kudos!

Best,
-Michael
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Narine Khachatryan <
ms.narine.khachatryan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
> I join my voice to Sandra, congratulations with the SEEDIG new web site,
> marking the beginning of this year! Thank you, Dusan, and all who worked on
> it. Its navigation, usability, and features are very good.
>
>
> An observation and suggestion regarding the linkage of SEEDIG, as an
> independent initiative, and EuroDIG, as a panEuropean initiative.
>
>
> Participants of SEEDIG and this list, have mentioned repeatedly that
> processes in SEE in contrast to Central and Western Europe, related to
> governance and participation, awareness and democratic engagement,
> transparency and accountability are either not the same or perceived in
> multiple-valued ways.
>
>
> When aligning those processes (up to incorporating the results of SEEDIG
> into EuroDIG and the global IGF) we need to ensure, that we are not losing
> important voices of parts of the public who are unable to deliver their
> voices effectively. Due to a variety of reasons, including the lack of
> democratic institutions, lack of resources, due to polysemantic perceptions
> of multistakeholderism and bottom-up and top-down processes, etc.
>
>
> In the process of setting up the good practices we need to be sure that we
> are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
>
>
> Wishing you all a peaceful, safe and happy New Year!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Narine
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Sandra's points. I also found the inclusion of a dislike
>> option discouraging and unnecessary.
>>
>> -Michael
>> __________________
>>
>> Michael J. Oghia
>> Istanbul, Turkey
>> 2015 ISOC IGF Ambassador
>> #TCKchat <http://www.bateconsult.com/category/tck-chat/> co-host, 1st
>> session
>> Skype: mikeoghia
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>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:17 PM, <sandra at eurodig.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all, first of all let me wish you a happy and peaceful new year, I
>>> guess it is not too late to do so.
>>>
>>> Congratulations for this website, it is really enjoyable to see how
>>> SEEDIG is evolving, I am sure these efforts will lead to a successful 2nd
>>> edition in Belgrade.
>>>
>>> I have two comments:
>>>
>>> 1. I would like to share some thoughts we had when we introduced the
>>> online evaluation system back in 2014. The first tool was programmed by
>>> young Dutch people and it was agreed that we invite the community to
>>> express support for a proposal, but do not introduce a dislike option. We
>>> found it might be discouraging for the submitter and can lead to tensions,
>>> even if you not include the name of the submitter. We also learned in the
>>> process that the word "voting", leads the community to take the results too
>>> literally when interpreting the results. This means they expected that the
>>> one with the highest rank becomes the most prominent session and so on. We
>>> tried to make it always clear that the online review is "only" an
>>> additional tool to gain feedback from the community besides the planning
>>> meeting, but still it is misunderstood by some and we keep on explain it
>>> ... something to consider for the test phase.
>>>
>>> 2. I would like to encourage you to highlight a bit more SEEDIG as an
>>> independent initiative being part of a global process. The linkage between
>>> SEEDIG and EuroDIG was very well received during the IGF in Joao Pessoa and
>>> I would like to build upon that. By underlining for instance the alignment
>>> of the processes, the joint call for proposals and the way results of
>>> SEEDIG should feed into EuroDIG (and thereafter into the IGF) we could set
>>> some good practises for other regions and I am confident that this will
>>> strengthen the global IG process.
>>>
>>> During the planning meeting on 26. January in Brussels we should come up
>>> with some concrete ideas on how to include SEEDIG results in EuroDIG
>>> meaningful and then deliver the message to the global IGF. Looking forward
>>> to your input here!
>>>
>>> Best Sandra
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: icann-see-bounces at rnids.rs [mailto:icann-see-bounces at rnids.rs] Im
>>> Auftrag von Dusan Stojicevic
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Januar 2016 16:25
>>> An: icann-see at rnids.rs
>>> Betreff: [Icann-see] Web site seedig.net
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Let me introduce to you SEEDIG’s website - check www.seedig.net.
>>> Still fresh and new and still in beta testing, but fully operational.
>>> If You have any comments or proposals, please do not hesitate to give us
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> Also, all proposals submitted for the April SEEDIG meeting can be found
>>> here http://www.seedig.net/category/proposals/.
>>> [16:22:40] Sorina Teleanu: You can like or dislike any of them, but
>>> please note that likes and dislikes are part of a testing exercise for
>>> next year’s event. Because of the short time-frame, online evaluation is
>>> not planned for this year, but this is something we will improve for
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> e-SEE you all on the virtual meeting
>>>
>>> http://www.seedig.net/2016/01/08/two-virtual-planning-meetings-on-14-and-15-january/
>>>
>>> and please don’t forget to register in advance.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dusan
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