[Icann-see] Fwd:

[Dusan Stojicevic]

Dear Narine,

Thank You for Your mail and questions, I'll try to be short as I can and 
answer them all.

First, I need to clarify one thing - some of the questions related to 
SEEDIG 2016 are sent to the list after all deadlines and decisions, but 
I will answer on that also, because they are very useful for explanation 
of what the SEEDIG is.
*
**Q>*May I kindly ask the excecutive committee to publicize the rules 
and procedures under which SEEDIG, its excecutive committee ​and/​or the 
list are acting and to answer the following questions:
*A>*As You are aware, SEEDIG is a rather new initiative, still in the 
process of development. Therefore, we haven't yet had a chance to write 
down such "rules and procedures" for the entire SEEDIG process, as, for 
the past year, we have basically learned by doing and move ahead one 
step after the other. But I think it is fair to say that all such steps 
have been made in a transparent manner, and every time a decision had to 
be made, there was a process (every time with clear, written rules and 
procedures) put in place for consulting members of the mailing list and 
making the respective decision in an open manner. As we are now moving 
into a new SEEDIG cycle, the plan is to draft and try to agree on a set 
of SEEDIG operating principles to guide us through this new cycle - we 
have the SEEDIG 2015 experience and lessons learned and these can now be 
used for developing what You called "rules and procedures" for SEEDIG 
(including the executive committee and the operation of the mailing 
list). This is something that has been discussed at the virtual meeting 
(13 August) and it is reflected in the email sent by the ex.com. on the 
same day.
*Q>*Is SEEDIG​ formation based on a new(?) geographic region?
*A>*SEEDIG is not and was not aim to create or define a (new) geographic 
region. This initiative was driven from what was perceived to be a need 
for stakeholders in this region - which was broadly called South Eastern 
Europe (SEE) - to gather together and discuss about Internet governance 
issues that are particularly relevant for us (and maybe not so relevant 
for the rest of Europe). When the discussions on creating such an 
initiative were initiated (before the creation of the icann-see mailing 
list), we were aware of the fact that trying to define SEE is a 
complicated and potentially controversial matter, so we have 
deliberately avoided doing this. This is why we often referred to "SEE 
and the neighboring area", trying to keep the term as wide and inclusive 
as possible, while not entering into political debates. This has been 
later explained a number of times during our virtual meetings.Similar 
initiatives (subregional) can be found in other continents like Africa.
*Q>*Are there any political or economic considerations​ when we try to 
develop SEEDIG​?
*A>*The objectives under which SEEDIG has been operating are public: 
http://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/South_Eastern_European_Dialogue_(SEEDIG)#Objectives) 
. They were generally agreed upon at the January 2015 virtual meeting 
and have been then further refined afterwards. As You can notice, there 
is no political or economic motivation mentioned there.
*Q>*Are post-Soviet impacts pla​ying role, when we think of ​this new 
formation in ​the South Eastern Europe?
*A>*Interesting question for me, coming from a country which was never 
part of Soviet Union. As such, I am not aware of the term "post-Soviet 
impact" and whatever that means - I think that there is no such thing here.
*Q>*Is any ​participating entity free to decide whether it belongs to 
SEEDIG or it is a part of a single and undivided Europe?
*A>*SEEDIG is not a region, it's a IG initiative and cannot be compare 
to the term "single and undivided Europe". If You are asking about 
geographical participation, answer will be: definitely. As mentioned in 
the SEEDIG FAQ (available at 
http://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/FAQs#Who_is_SEEDIG_for.3F ): "SEEDIG 
welcomes individuals and entities from all stakeholder groups 
(governments, intergovernmental organizations, civil society, private 
sector, technical community), particularly from, but not limited to, 
countries in South Eastern Europe and the neighbouring area." Therefore, 
while SEEDIG is open to any interested individual or entity, it is not 
its aim to force a choice upon any such individual or entity, nor to 
divide Europe. With regards to your comments on a "single and undivided 
Europe", I would also like to point out to the fact that SEEDIG is not 
aimed to "divide" Europe, and this can be noticed in the efforts made to 
have linkages between SEEDIG and EuroDIG, both for SEEDIG 2015 and for 
future SEEDIG meetings. While SEEDIG is intended to discuss IG issues 
from a SEE perspective, it is also its aim to create linkages between 
the realities in this region and the pan-European debates on IG. And 
this has been public and is, for example, reflected in the SEEDIG 2015 
meeting report: 
http://www.eurodig.org/fileadmin/user_upload/eurodig_Sofia/SEEDIG_2015_-_meeting_report.pdf 
(the part on "SEEDIG discussions feeding into EuroDIG" is relevant from 
this point of view).*
**Q>*Does SEEDIG forum means that experts living in the Eastern Europe 
should pay twice for taking part in SEEDIG and EuroDIG?
*A>*When the discussions on the approach for SEEDIG 2016 were initiated, 
it was underlined that having SEEDIG in the region comes with a number 
of implications and challenges. The travel costs related to attending 
both EuroDIG and SEEDIG (if held separately) were among these 
challenges. However, the discussions held during the public comment 
period (with several consecutive deadlines,  on 12 July, 31 July and 12 
August), during the two virtual meetings held in July and August, as 
well as in Sofia and Buenos Aires showed that there was more support for 
SEEDIG being held in the region, despite the challenges. Therefore, the 
decision to have SEEDIG 2016 in the region, while strongly connected 
with EuroDIG. We are aware that the challenges are still there, and this 
is why it has been discussed that SEEDIG and EuroDIG would try to work 
together on potential attracting "funding for some SEE attendees to 
participate in the EuroDIG meeting" ( as noted in the call for comments 
on the future of SEEDIG).
*Q>*A​nd at last since we are required to comment and participate in the 
decision-making process related to SEEDIG​ (at least as subscribers of 
this list), we need to know which rules and procedures we are expected 
to follow. Are there any written, ​or in other words​, existing rules 
for SEEDIG?​ And if yes, where are they published?​
*A>*Please, see answers above.

Regards,
Dusan

On 13.8.2015 13:24, Narine Khachatryan wrote:
> Dear Sorina and all,
>
> ​May I kindly ask
> the excecutive committee to publicize the rules and procedures under 
> which SEEDIG, its excecutive committee
> ​and/​
> or the list are acting and to answer the following questions:
>
> ​Is
> SEEDIG
> ​ formation
>  based on a new(?) geographic region?
>
> ​Are there any
> political or economic considerations
> ​ when we try to develop SEEDIG​
> ?
>
> ​Are​
>  post-Soviet impacts pla
> ​ying​
> role, when we think of
> ​this ​
> new formation in
> ​the ​
> South Eastern Europe?
>
> Is any
> ​participating ​
> entity
> ​​
> free to decide whether it belongs to SEEDIG or it is a part of a 
> single and undivided Europe?
>
> Does SEEDIG forum means that experts living in the Eastern Europe 
> should pay twice for taking part in SEEDIG and EuroDIG?
>
> A
> ​nd a​
> t last since we are required to comment and participate in the 
> decision-making process related to SEEDIG
> ​ (at least as subscribers of this list)​
> , we need to know which rules and procedures we are expected to follow.
>
> Are there any written,
> ​or ​
> in other words
> ​,​
> existing rules for SEEDIG?
> ​ And if yes, where are they published?​
>
>
> Best regards to everybody,
>
> Narine
> ​Khachatryan​
> ​
>
> ​
>
>
>



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